In correspondence with Amey Stone, (one of our beloved editors) almost two years ago, during a very shaky market, I did some rare speculating.
I preface this article by acknowledging that such exercises are usually pointless and not something I engage in very often. My deep value investing style is focused on companies and not markets, facts and verifiable high probability theories. Often I am the contrarian as in Me and my Merck: Should I keep it? Sometimes I am the curmudgeon (hopefully lovable curmudgeon) and I have scoffed at analysts (Analyzing the Analysts - It's all a joke right?) and prognosticators whose primary business is skimming fees from the top of your investment stash.
Among what I thought at the time were my verifiable high probability theories was that oil money, real estate money and Chinese money (from our sad trade deficit) was going to recirculate back into the stock market. Oil prices were just starting to move up, real estate was booming, and the Chinese were piling up billions of dollars of our treasury notes. Furthermore I thought the Chinese would not just be satisfied moving some of their debt instruments (bonds) into equities (stocks) but actually start shopping for U.S. companies. This came to pass in their acquisition of IBM's Think Pad (R) division by Levano, and their failed attempt to acquire Unocal, and they are still on the look-out for other opportunities.
So in early 2005 I made the case to Amey that we were going to see the Dow hit 11,000 by the end of the year and that we would hit 12,000 by the end of this year. Well of course the Dow Jones Industrial Average did hit 11,000 as anticpated climbing from about 10,000 mid year in '05 and I believe it will soon reach 12,000, maybe even by the end of the year, which was on my list of "speculations".
It's only a question of time. It's only another 3% +/- in a year of mixed results.
By the way, Warren Buffett comments about the trade deficit in a story about our loss of integrity in Warren Buffett, America's greatest storyteller.
So having just about hit all my targets from my notes to Amey of two years ago I started thinking about where we go from here. I think we are in for more of the same and for the same reasons. Plus a few new insights, if I may be so bold.
China continues to win the trade war happily accumulating our treasury notes which postpones our having to deal with our own internal spending problems. This extends their economic boom and they continue to move some of their U.S. Treasury notes (debt instruments) into our equity markets (buying our country at discount) which translates into stock purchasing and acquiring more American companies or controlling interest. This also enables them to enter our markets in areas they do not currently have a foothold. They have great incentive to do this; they have a lot more mouths to feed.
Oil & energy prices contribute to stock market gains coming and going. If oil prices continue to go down or horizontal (natural gas and oil both down now) then our economy will benefit and this supports the market. If they rise again then billions of dollars still enter our exchanges except there is a latent effect, which we are now experiencing, as money collected by foreign oil concerns works its way back into our markets -- No one will be buying Russian Treasury notes or entering their markets in any meaingful way, except for the biggest risk takers. A tremendous amount of this oil cartel money is really in the treasuries of foreign governments like Saudi Arabia, Russia, Venezuela and the like. This in turn allows them to have more influence over our corporate and government policy decision making process. I believe this to be true no matter what we hear from politicians and corporate America.
Housing has gone soft and Ford (F) and General Motors (GM) have crumbled. These big ticket items are heavily affected by interest rates and with both sectors limping along inflation looks less scary and the Federal Reserve will feel less pressure to raise short term interest rates. Lower rates have a very positive impact on the stock market and we are witnessing that now too.
Interest rate adjustments by the Federal Reserve Board are just as likely to go down as up, maybe even more so if I believe what I read these days in the financial soothsayer section of any business publication including ours. All of this should be taken with a grain of salt, for sure -- things can change fast!
Each 1,000 points in the Dow is getting easier to make. Remember, it's just numbers sometimes, and as a percentage the increase from 12,000 to 13,000 is only a 8.33% gain. This is less than the historic average annual gain and going from 13,000 to 14,000 is only a 7.9% gain -- These are not hard figures to accept especially when supported by my first four points.
The Stocks that make up the Dow Jones Industrial Average (the Dow or DJIA) have been building equity for over five years with little to show for it. Consider that General Electric (GE), Wal-Mart (WMT) and Microsoft (MSFT), as well as the the banks and phamaceuticals have done little to move the market which has been led by energy and commodities. However, the overall investing market has not appreciated the tremendous amounts of equity build-up over this time. Eventually all that equity has to translate into higher stock prices. We have been hearing for several years that the large caps are supposed to make their move leading the market upward but they have not-- They are due. I do not have to pick the day this will happen -- but it will happen!
So how long will all this take to play out? I figure the next 30 months. Sometime before the next president has to clean up after George W. Bush. And of this I am more certain than the Dow reaching 14,000. The next guy (or gal) be they Democrat, Republican, or Independent will have one heck of a mess to sort out. I am on record as believing that the world economy has a good chance of slowing after the Beijing Olympics in early 2009 (Global recession? Not until after Beijing Summer Olympics) which also coincides with our presidential inauguration.
Disclosure: I own shares of Berkshire Hathaway (BRK.B) and do not own shares of any other company mentioned in this story.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
9-29-2006 @ 4:10PM
Brad said...
With P/E ratios already at ridiculous levels,you are gonna get scorched.If it goes to 14,000 it will only be due to more insanity than is already present.I will go on record as saying you are looney.Let me know what you invest in,I will short it.I will be happy to take your money
9-29-2006 @ 4:13PM
steve holben said...
It's time to stop "blaming Bush" and realize terrorism is a real ongoing threat that had a great deal to do with why it's taken so long for the "DOW" to get back to where it was 6+ years ago. American's are pansy's and all it will take is another 9/11 (o/e)to send them back to their hutchs (as in Rabbit hutch). I'm glad we have a president with cajones. the next pres. has big shoes to fill.
9-30-2006 @ 7:38AM
SPIKE FREW said...
Once sane people realize fed spending is totally out of control and we are living beyond the means of our grankids to pay the debt , inflation will rage and the dollar will start a long protracted slide. Its a law of economics that it is impossible to have guns and butter without hurting a countries econmy.It is imperative that we put our house in order quickly by insisting on a balanced budget !..Its long ( 6 years) overdue..No country has ever survived when interest on national debt exceeds 5% of its GDP...we are getting tooo close!Added to these woes are runaway costs of medical care , education , pensions and some stae gov..its apparent that disaster is not only possible...ITS PROBABLE!
9-30-2006 @ 7:32PM
Mr. noitall said...
I really don't think the Chinese are going to continue to accumulate large amounts of our treasury notes or try to buy any U.S. companies. The U.S. dollar has declined a tremendous amount in the last few years. I'm sure they noticed this more than anyone else. U.S. treasury notes have been a poor investment for them lately. And when they tried to buy Unocal, the sale was blocked by our government.
The Euro has become a viable currency and will now compete with the dollar for that oil money. It also looks like gold has re-emerged as a back-up currency. If the FED lowers interest rates it might drive the Dow up, but the Dow at $14000 means nothing if those $'s keep depreciating.
10-01-2006 @ 2:30PM
Sheldon said...
BRAD: The Dow actually does not have high P/E ratios and the continual build up of equity is bringing it lower still, (NASDAQ does)-- where are you getting your info? BTW I have been doing very well in the market for quite some time. I'm sure you were being glib in your comments but I would exercise great caution against doing the opposite of what I do. Check out my past 80 posts you will find BDK, BRK, GE, FDX, HOG, MRK, PTR, TWX, SO, and others doing well and if memory serves me correct only UPS off short term since I brought it up. It is all on the record.
STEVE: I'm not blaming Bush just presenting the facts-- it is your own perception of the facts that make you uncomfortable.
SPIKE: Right on brother!
MR.N.: A cheaper dollar just means better buys in our market and more of them. Petro-dollars and China will keep coming. China also has a trade surplus with Europe as well, so they will buy there too.