- Ethan wrote me: "Thank you for the rational non-exuberance blog on market forces. I do have to ask about the particular "crushed" housing market on home building companies as such for being the "Sell" and "Avoid" industry currently. While there is a rumor today about Buffett's bid for Hovanian Enterprise (HOV), do you personally see any value and fundamental still within the industry, to name a few stocks that do give dividends (DHI, PHM, LEN, CTX, KBH, MDC, BZH...)? My gut is Yes but it would contradict the market force and the continuing virus-spiraling down sub-prime mortgage situation that affects many other industries as well.
The short answer is yes. To paraphrase Warren Buffett and other value investors, you simply must buy stocks when the fear in the market (or a sector) reaches a crescendo.
Ethan is asking, have we reached that point? Well, I do not know. Furthermore it does not matter. If the housing market gets worse before it gets better, then housing stocks will likely go lower. So what? The better question is whether the stocks are a value now and how long will they take to bounce back to where they were.The reason I say it does not matter if they go lower is that I am confident that they are at or close to bargains now. I am already on record and reaffirmed it again this week, that I would be comfortable buying Pulte Homes (NYSE: PHM) all day long at $22 per share now. Since I made that comment it is up, closing Friday at $23.31 for whatever reason. Waiting further for the perfect moment means the stocks could move up without warning, perhaps on an announcement that Buffett has blessed the sector. This happened about two months ago with railroad stocks.
Let's say you bought Pulte last Friday. That is about a 50% discount to it's January 2006 price of $45 and a few months earlier it reached $47. If it took three years to get back to that price your internal rate of return (IRR) exceeds 24%. If it took four years you would be settling for a measley 18% IRR, plus dividends. Those seem like very good returns to me and would beat 95% of your fellow investors. Even a five or six year period would beat the 70 year market averages, I do not see a down side.
I have done this many, many times and been rewarded. I am not a market timer and I do not know when housing stocks will make a strong move upward, but I am confident it will happen and these currently unloved stocks will do so before the majority of investors or sheep ( I mean analysts) will have the courage to make a move.
Those of you who are new to BloggingStocks can check out my other stories and read Chasing Value or Serious Money to find more potential opportunities and verify my track record as well.
Sheldon Liber is the CEO of a small private investment company and the principal for design and research at an architecture & planning firm.











Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
7-16-2007 @ 9:17AM
Warren said...
Housing, inevitably, has to go back up. There's only so much land on the planet and demand will increase again. It has to. Seems like a no brainer to be investing in real estate funds.
7-16-2007 @ 9:58PM
ethanenglar said...
Thank you for the great and insightful post,
I am still continuously learning and filtering the business info out there in the daily basis. From the value point of view, I believe the Dividend paying housing stocks would fare better for investors that are skeptical about the industry.
From my personal research on value/ dividend stocks, I came across this company: Frontline Ltd. (FRO) (not sure if written on this blog before) that pays $6.00 dividend annually (11~12% yield) and continuously growth dividends as well. FRO is trading currently at P/E 8.09, Beta 2.03...It is in the oil & coal transportation industry that transports from oil, coal, gas,....etc from one continent to another. Regardless of the sub-industry, I thought of FRO would be a good stock to invest something like ROTH-IRA or sort for tax advantages. Any thoughts?
Thank you.
7-16-2007 @ 9:58PM
Mr. noitall said...
I wouldn't buy stock in any of the home builders at this time. The housing slump has just begun in my opinion. It could last for decades. I think seeing interest rates at 1% was a once in a lifetime event for most of us.
7-17-2007 @ 8:23AM
Sheldon L said...
Thanks for such a sobering comment Noitall. I agree that we will not likely see a repeat of 1% interest rates. However, saying it might take decades for housing stocks to recover is absurd. There is still tremendous demand for housing even today - the pricing needs to be adjusted - and it will be. It is rapidly being adjusted now.
7-25-2007 @ 10:31AM
Mark Bowin said...
Great idea to buy when companies are in distress, with one caveat: Make sure the company whose stock you've socked away is not going to go into bankruptcy before any rebound.
I submit that bankruptcies are a very real concern, especially in capital-intensive markets where leverage is not unheard of.
Mark B.
7-25-2007 @ 9:04PM
Mary Ellen said...
Don't rush in to "catch the falling knife" in the housing and real estate markets. Lots more "bad apples" to be shaken out of the excessive tree. Stay cool, wait. This market isn't going to turn around anytime soon.