TheStreet.com's Jim Cramer says there are some events out there -- WaMu being the biggest -- that make the plan worth adopting. The vote from Monday's market was pretty resounding: The plan won't help. Or if it does, it will be too costly and there are too many details that can't be worked out.
So should it just be let go?
I am a big believer in the plan because there are some events out there that would make the plan worth adopting no matter what. And the biggest event is Washington Mutual (NYSE: WM) (Cramer's Take). Here's a firm that just had its debt downgraded again last night, and if you read the ratings downgrades you can't see how the feds can avoid seizing it.
But what happens when they seize it? The thing is so mammoth that it would overwhelm the FDIC. Although with this administration's magic-wand philosophy, maybe we can just get some stopgap funding. Or maybe we just say, "As long as there are no lines outside WM, we are fine." But at a certain point, no investors are going to want to buy any of this company's debt and the losses could be too great.
With the plan, another entity can buy them, and write the mortgages down to the level where they could be sold to the resolution mortgage trust and take the deposits. If you are Morgan Stanley (NYSE: MS) (Cramer's Take) or Goldman Sachs (NYSE: GS) (Cramer's Take), overnight you become a gigantic deposit institution and you do not have to take a hit on the mortgages. It solves a lot of problems.
Now, I know it creates a lot of problems, but as if anyone wasn't aware of this, every alternative creates a lot of problems. If it didn't, we would have solved this by now.
In a world with no plan, though, with no place to put the mortgages, the FDIC goes broke, people panic about their deposits, and we have 1932. We have the Great Depression scenario.
We can quibble all we want about the plan, we can delay the inevitable with Washington Mutual by having them just be on life support -- with the Fed helping -- but this is the largest stand-alone repository of bad mortgages, and it is about to come due.
The major rap against the plan is simple: price discovery.
Right now, the mortgages can be hidden within a bank structure. Arguably, that's not even true. Banks should be disclosing everything. When I read articles about how Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley can now hide their bad assets in the commercial side of the ledger, I cringe.
All institutions are supposed to admit what's performing and what's not performing and where those nonperformers are from and what they are like. All of them. I read these articles and my head is spinning.
Being a commercial bank just makes it, without deposits, so Morgan Stanley and Goldman can return prime brokerage account monies to clients without going belly-up. A commercial banking license is not a license to make as many bad loans and own as many bad pieces of paper possible.
It is possible that Goldman can match bad investments against good deposits, but, again, Goldman's problem was not bad assets -- it wasn't losing money -- but prime brokerage exiting.
The deposits of Washington Mutual would take care of that, but so would the Fed, which as of Monday can just lend Goldman the money for those exiting the prime brokerage.
No, the beauty of the plan is that those deposits are worth a great deal, that they give your organization more room to make more loans, even though the loans are a lower percentage of your capital.
The big short rap on the New Goldman is that it can't lever 22-to-1, but if it had Washington Mutual's deposits it could lever up at probably like 2- or 3-to-1 and still have lots more room than it has, although there are rules about how much of that capital you can risk.
Right now, the presumption with a Citigroup (NYSE: C) (Cramer's Take) or a JPMorgan (NYSE: JPM) (Cramer's Take) is that they can pretty much do whatever they want with however much they want -- true or false, that is the perception. In other words, commercial banks are perceived to have the same amount of opportunity to lever as investment banks with less risk, so they are better investments.
The main issue here is that without the plan, Washington Mutual could be the tipping point. With the plan, it won't cascade.
Right now, there are supposed to be five bidders for Washington Mutual. I don't believe it. I think it's chimerical. Without the plan approved, I don't know why anyone would buy WaMu. This is where the rubber hits the road.
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RELATED LINKS:
WaMu Deal Could Take Time
Cramer: A Way Out of This Mess
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Jim Cramer is a director and co-founder of TheStreet.com. He contributes daily market commentary for TheStreet.com's sites and serves as an adviser to the company's CEO. At the time of publication, Cramer was long Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley and JPMorgan.
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
9-23-2008 @ 8:59AM
tom campbell said...
Why do you quote this actor? Closely examine his entire history of comments and reccomendations and you will find there is an excuse for every very wrong prediction.
This type of person detracts from the orderly consideration of financial matters which the news should be presnting in an intellectual manner.
9-23-2008 @ 10:21AM
fww said...
I agree I Think if you look closely - he touts stocks he probably has a position in and slams....SLAMS those he does not - he was all rosey about the head of Wachovia -who happens to be his buddy and former boss - It is a dangerous situation to have this broadcast and quoted as if he is the all knowing expert in these markets and right now - no one knows - market manipulation - MS from 33 to 11 in 24 hours -
9-23-2008 @ 10:22AM
JOE said...
IS THERE ANY REASON WHY WE SHOULD BELIEVE THIS GUY AFTER HIS SMOOTH SAILING TRIP?BOY GEORGE AND HIM SLEEP IN THE SAME BOAT!
9-23-2008 @ 10:45AM
ANN said...
LIAR'S POKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LET'S FACE IT! OUR GOVERNMENT AND WALL STREET ARE IN PARTNERSHIP TOGETHER TO TAKE EVERY PENNY THAT THEY CAN FROM HARD WORKING AMERICANS. Why don't they just pay off the mortgages for struggling families that are about to lose their home. Instead they want to just give the money to the banks and leave hard working Americans to fail right and left with no help from government at all. George Bush was put into office as a puppet so that the investment bankers could manipulate Wall Street and regulators.SPEAK NOW TO STOP THEM FROM WRITING ANOTHER 700 BILLION DOLLAR CHECK TO THE GREEDY WALL STREET MONGRELS WHO CAUSED THIS DISASTER. LIAR'S POKER ALL OVER AGAIN.
9-23-2008 @ 10:41AM
Craig said...
do not tell me Henry Paulson a Goldman Sachs broker id not see this coming.And now we bail them out?not unless we take control,call it what you want but business proved that capitalism without regulation cannot work,too many greedy maggots who only care about how much how fast.
9-23-2008 @ 11:00AM
Gene said...
Let's talk bailout. I like and trust Jim Cramer. He says it like it is and doesn't hold back. But....I agree with the gentleman from France who yesterday stated that someone should be held accountable for this mess. Greed has driven us to our current destination and many investors could not be satisfied with making a reasonable profit on their investments. Just like Enron, everything gets contorted until things eventually get out of control. So now the American taxpayers will foot the bill for some CEO's to get their investment firms bailed out and maybe they will get a nice golden parachute as a result. This simply is not acceptable to the American people. Neither is failure of our banking systems and another great depression. So let's quit wrangling on Capitol Hill and get something in ink. But let's not forget a contributing factor for why we have arrived at the current destination. I know it is only my opinion but Greed continues to come to mind. It is time that the American people DEMAND change. In politics, in business and in life. We can no longer saddle the future with economic disasters that have been brought on by mass deregulation and disregard. It is now evident that complete deregulation does not work. We send money to Washington to pay people to set policies to protect us. (I did not say to be protectionist.) Let's get to it before time runs out and the world economy crashes. We ARE in a world economy. Mr. Greenspan was right. We need to learn how to participate. What happens in the U.S. has great impact on the rest of the world. This is not news but the rest of the world may demand that action is taken on the responsible parties to our markets' demise and we must do what is necessary to keep (or re-build) our standing as a leader in the world economy. The rest of the world is watching us, holding their breath with the hope that we will do the right thing. Let's put our best foot forward, lay politics to the side for a moment and get the job done.
9-23-2008 @ 11:25AM
Luis said...
I used to regard Cramer as a man of integrity. But if you cut through all his you will detect nothing less than blatant chicanery. While many preached about free-markets and de-regulation, and while the middle-class fell for it, now the former want government intervention. What??? Come on, you can't have the best of both worlds. We should take a stand and say no to this immoral and corrupt bailout plan. Absolutely no to all those crooks who took advantage of unsuspecting hardworking middle-class individuals and families. Oh yeah, and who ultimately flips the bill? You got it: the taxpayer who always gets screwed.
9-24-2008 @ 9:20AM
Robert Skakandy said...
Dear Mr. Cramer:
I suggest that the Government consider offering refinancing of all existing residential mortgages in the US, similar to mortgage modification. No
qualifying, no new title work, etc. All existing mortgages would then be paid off and the present "meltdown" would no longer exist. Mortgage payments on these
new mortgages could be back-ended or drastically reduced for a 24 month period. No one would be worse off. The investment community would have funds as they would not be holding the existing packaged mortgages. The insurance industry
would be off the hook. There would be great benefits to this plan. With reduced mortgage payments, citizens would most likely spend some of their new found money, thereby stimulating the economy, as was proposed by the Economic Stimulus tax rebates. In two years, the economy should improve and housing sales should
stabilize. I trust that you will read this.
Yours truly,
Bob Skakandy
9-23-2008 @ 12:44PM
Limoman said...
Ie: Cramer ?
You have to understand where he is comming from..
He is Pro on stocks and Investing, a Capitalist..
Just like most Investment Advisors and The Brokerage Business in General.
He Has to be PRO Wall Street..
Otherwise, what would happen to him and the rest?
Ans. ? No More Job/Career..
and His Own Investments? Down the Tubes
So , I don't blame him.. Like all the others? Take 50% and discard it..
9-23-2008 @ 1:29PM
Shelby said...
Of course, let the taxpayer suffer for the mistakes of Wall Street. Easy solution.
9-23-2008 @ 8:24PM
W. Walters said...
Cramer a capitalist? Not even close.
9-23-2008 @ 3:31PM
Mary DeCesare said...
Say NO to the bailout!
Don't reward the thieves for their dishonesty.
Find a way to get the bailout money into the hands of Mr. Everybody who got snookered into these bad loans.
Good riddance to the failed companies.
9-23-2008 @ 6:08PM
Rex said...
In 2005, 2006 and early 2007, I used to get a lot of phishing SPAM on my server pretending to be from WAMU. I should have known something was up back then. Obviously, the spammers knew that WAMU customers, in aggregate, were dumb enough to be likely targets for phishing scams. The spammers had a better read on WAMU customers than the WAMU loan dept - dumb and foolish with their money...
10-01-2008 @ 11:54PM
Vince Loddo said...
Hi Craemer!
Are Treasury Bills the safest place to keep your money even though they don"t pay any money.