Readers of this space know that economist David H. Wang, a colleague and friend of yours truly, approaches the economic scene from a unique perspective.
Wang was born and raised in Communist China for 22 years, before moving permanently to the United States in 1989 for graduate school, completing his Ph.D. in economics in 1995.
Of course Wang still talks with family and friends in China, and right now there's this joke making the rounds in the great centers in Beijing and Shanghai.
Question: What's the difference between U.S. President George W. Bush and Chairman Mao?
Answer: Chairman Mao actually put some bankers in jail.
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As officials and citizens in China, India, Russia, Brazil, and many other developing nations look on, the United States is attempting to end a financial crisis that threatens to severely damage economies worldwide.
In the process, Wang and other economists agree, a number of myths and misnomers -- some promoted by the current U.S. administration, are being dispelled, and we'll review each in the months ahead.
Item: "The market is always right."
It's hard to believe that there are still proponents of this viewpoint, but they're still around. "If the market is always right, then how did we get to this point, a condition in which private banks do not want to lend to banks, let alone businesses and consumers?" Wang said. "And what would market absolutists have to say about mortgage securitization? Mortgage backed securities were created and wildly promoted in the private sector and they're at the heart of the financial crisis, along with mortgage defaults. Designed to lessen risk, mortgage backed securities spread risk like a virus. Clearly the market was not right with mortgage backed securities."
Item: "The market is self-correcting, self-policing, self-regulating."
Markets have never been self-policing, Wang said. "There is this myth that big players in the market, or 'the market' itself, will create an unofficial, ethical code that with protect the public, and achieve a social good. Well, this is true, but only to a degree. What we have seen is that on a cyclical basis certain players take foolish or unreasonable risks -- risks that have led to crisis. And this has been occurring for more than a hundred years in capitalism, in 1893, 1929, 1987, and now in 2008. Markets are not self-regulating. Where they violate public safety or the public trust, they must be regulated."
Economic Analysis: Economist Wang offers two substantive critiques of two myths forwarded by market absolutists. Far from being perfect and self-correcting, as current financial events demonstrate, markets frequently commit horrendous errors, are cyclical, and have experienced period crises that span centuries.
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
10-11-2008 @ 7:19PM
Chris said...
Our current mess cannot be laid at the hands of the free market, because there is no free market.
A free market would not have a central bank, legal tender laws, and regulations that forced banks to make loans to uncreditworthy individuals.
Our crisis is one of interventionism, and more intervening can only make it worse.
Someday (or "eventually") the free market will get its shot...but it's no where to be seen right now.
10-11-2008 @ 7:49PM
william lindblad said...
Joe, next time you talk to Wang do ask him how he thinks the Bank of Mao is doing?
Just as Lenin had Arman Hammer, Mao needed Western currency also. Since this one involved H.K. pirates and many other unsavory activities it's forgotten. This is before Tricky Dick and Henry. I Know what the Chinese finance minster said, but I think his gloating may be a bit premature.
Surprises are not always pleasant.
10-11-2008 @ 8:37PM
j. kreitzer said...
yes, the Dow is always correct. it gives
you an insight of what"s to come.
that is if you read the chart correctly.
about self correcting no. the plain
individual does not have the outstanding
stock to manuver the dow. a portion yes,
the main bulk of stock is in corporations.
the DOW reports the action taken gives
you exactly what is happening on the
floor of the exchange. period.
do not include anything else in the DOW.
if your smart enough to figure out the
formations, it will tell you the next move.
what happened before is the movement
of now. i can't go into that. j.k
10-11-2008 @ 10:18PM
Mr. noitall said...
The market is always right, it just depends on your definition of "right" doesn't it? Ask Mr. Wang what he considers "right" when markets are involved. I would say the terms right or wrong can't be applied to the markets, the best you can say is the markets are both right & wrong continually. And also the same can be said about self-regulation. The stock market did self regulate after the 1929 crash, most people were afraid to invest in the stock market for 40 to 50 years. I would call that "self regulation, self policing, and
self correcting". I think Mr. Wang should look at some long term history before he comes to such definite conclusions. Maybe you and him should join the discussion, like your colleague Sheldon Liber is willing to do. I don't want to offend Mr. Wang, I'm sure he is a very smart man, but a smart man should realize that some things are learned out-side the class room.
The markets are a product of a number of factors, that just can't be measured, or predicted accurately, they are not based on some scientific formula like the laws of physics. 20 years ago, did we need a PC?, cell phone? Ipod?, do we really need them now? We lived without them before, but are we willing to live without them now? Will they be replaced by some thing else during the next five years? The success of these products couldn't be predicted and their future can't be predicted. Nobody owned a V.C.R. during the 70's, everybody owned one by the time the 90's came around, now soon it looks like nobody will own them once again. Didn't we all live without I.R.A's and 401K's before the 1980's, were things so bad back then, how many people owned shares in a mutual fund before the 1980's? How did we survive without them?
Lately I've been hearing alot of talk about capitalism failing, but just ask yourselves, how much progress and inovation was produced by other systems.
10-12-2008 @ 2:02AM
PixelSlave said...
Wrong wrong wrong. The market is always right, BUT go back to your economy 101 textbook please. The whole concept of the market can self regulate and self adjust by itself is under the assumption that the market is PERFECT. Therefore, both the demand and supply sides know exactly what they are doing, know exactly what are happening and know exactly what they want to do next, etc. We don't have to be a genius to know that such condition would never exist in the real world. This is why we need regulations to balance the imperfect world. Regulation does not mean the death of market economy.
10-12-2008 @ 4:44AM
JP said...
These are 2 great points, although bankers and investors have known this for quite some time. Moral hazard has been, and likely will continue, to be the greatest dilemma in the way the financial system works in capitalism as we know it today.
Bank privatization has been the fundamental strength of American capitalism. The growing likelihood of bank nationalization will interlink prevailing political attitudes with its economy. Believe we're witnessing the nascent stages of a new era in protectionism/nationalism.
The market is always right in as much as might is right. If might turns on itself, however, it can be self-defeating. Fear of risk, essentially, can bring about the breakdown of markets just as much as greed can bolster markets. The self-policing only makes sense when fear and greed are in balance. We experienced an excess of greed by way of credit excess, so now we're seeing the fear of a worst-case scenario. It's natural.
I do believe markets are always right. And we are, indeed, self-policing. CEO of Chesapeake lost all his shares for using excess leverage over the past few years. Margin calls are always self-policing.
Even if it won't matter when markets open Monday, I'm thankful central bankers are eager to assist because it will help commercial paper in 2009.
10-12-2008 @ 6:35AM
BELLCORD said...
WELL, IF THE MARKET'S ALWAYS RIGHT THEN THE MARKET JUST TOLD US CAPITOLISM DEADER THAN FRIED CHICKEN..
10-12-2008 @ 6:37AM
al coholic said...
If you make a million statements (which the Market has done with it's ups and downs) a few of them will be right even if by accident. The ups and downs of the Market are caused more by emotional, political, and economic rumours than any brilliant insight.
After it came to light that Jeanne Dixon had made thousands of predictions that never came true it was predictable (I just couldn't resist that...) that one like the prediction of JFK might actually happen.
That's the way the Market's predictions work too.
10-12-2008 @ 2:46PM
Iridium said...
The problem is that the market is always right, but people are often wrong. The market is too easy for a rich few to manipulate. It got that way by being held by a large majority of the public.
Stock diversification was the worst idea in the history of capitalism. Yes it reduced risk and gave a very good chance of overall return over a long period. But what it did was remove all personal responsibility from the market. When you do not know what stock you hold, how can you care about the actions of an individual company.
Stock was meant to be a certificate equal to the value you placed on a company. You gave them a loan in good faith that it would be repaid with benefits. When you held stock you cared about the future of that company, wanting to see it succeed. If it was going in a direction you did not like you could vote to remove those in charge, or remove your holding hurting the company. When many individuals hold a few small shares, the opinions of those people are not held in high regard.
Individual shareholders lost almost all of their power unless they have the funds to hold a controlling stake. In today's market the is impossible for any but a select few. If you have 5-10 million people holding stock in a company. How will they ever be able to work as one if they believe a company is going in the wrong direction.
As with anything diversification over a large area only helps to breed corruption because the chances of getting caught diminish. The problem has only been compounded with the global market.
Stock diversification has brought us the entrenched board, the mega million CEO pay, and the golden parachute pensions.
Just like when the federal governemnt took many of the powers from the states, it became less likely for Americans to vote out the corrupt. Individuals are smart, but the collective always works at the bottom. A collective can only be as smart as its weekest link. Evident by the quality of our candidates.
The answer is an uncorrupted private market. A private market is always right because it must work on the laws of supply and demand without the hype and pandering to dividends.
The problem with a private market is that it will almost always lead to a monopoly. So government oversight is needed. The market needs to be prevented from outgrowing the pace set by the past. Everytime there has been a huge runup it has been followed by a huge crash. The signs are easy to see and stopping a bubble can be acomplished if those in charge listen to the right people.
The problem is that the wrong people hold a lot of money and they wish to profit from each rise and collapse. Because the responsibility of proper action is spread over so many people that proper action can never be taken until a crisis brings everyone to a like mindset.