Investors have become accustomed to bull markets -- long periods of stock price appreciation, i.e. a rising stock market. That's been the norm since the start of publicly-traded stocks in the United States, and certainly a feature of markets in the post-1980 period. Provided that the U.S. economy is growing in a sustainable way and increasing its productive capacity, bear markets have been the exception, the momentary pull-back, when one takes a long view of the investment horizon.
The current bear market can be seen in that light, again, provided the nation's economy is on a sustainable growth track with an increasing productive capacity.
Still, the key in the above has been the U.S. economy (obviously). Absent a healthy economy, different Dow case studies pop up.
For example, what if the Dow didn't fall -- and didn't rise -- for seven years? In other words, a sideways Dow where no progress is made? It seems like a remote possibility, but that's exactly what occurred from early 1966, when the Dow fell below 1,000, until late 1972, when the Dow reclaimed the psychologically-significant 1,000 level.
Still, 1966 was a long time ago, some may chime. Don't think the Dow can move sideways for seven years? Well, take a look at what the Dow has done since January 2001, or since the start of the Bush Administration. On January 30, 2001 the Dow closed at 10,881. It's trading around 9,000 now. Eight years. A roughly two thousand point decline. (Now, in fairness one has to add that the Dow at 10,800 in 2001 was overvalued, and today's Dow is undervalued, unless earnings estimates are revised downward for 2009, so the Dow has been more-or-less flat during the past eight years, on a value-adjusted basis.)
Low S&P 500 P/E a buy signal? Not quite
And about those price per earnings ratios, or P/E, don't look for much market support from that indicator. At the height of the just-concluded bull market, the P/E of the S&P 500 was 26. Today, it is about 11, which is actually below the post World War II P/E average of about 17.
However, the problem is, during bear markets (which usually accompany recessions), the P/E can dip much lower, to even 10 or 8. You don't want to know what the P/E fell to during the Great Depression.
And, as noted, earnings estimates can be revised lower, as they frequently are during recessions / period of sluggish GDP growth, quickly increasing the P/E. Hence, a low P/E for the market, in and of itself, is not a sure-fire buy support level for the stock market.
Market / Economic Analysis: The above suggests one key to an enduring rise in the Dow is that decision makers -- private and public -- should work to achieve, moving forward is the sustainable economic growth with an increasing productive capacity economic fundamentals.











Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
10-28-2008 @ 5:55PM
Sinbad said...
"I'm sorry I lost your money.." ADEF manager Paul Cuneo, after losing 90% ytd. Long and wrong.
10-28-2008 @ 7:23PM
Dan Barnett said...
A sideways DJI doesn't bother me as long as the 8-10% dividends continue to get paid.
& the DJI 8500 seems to be holding.