Now that the big three CEOs are sealing up their second week on Capitol Hill trying to convince U.S. lawmakers that their companies collectively need tens of billions to survive, what do they plan on doing internally? As in, what changes could be made to the product lines of all three automakers to fit a changed marketplace and a consumer and business populace that has hit the reset switch on what they want out of an automobile? How about jettisoning some brands that aren't core assets? That's the ticket -- or at least a big part of it.
Just which brands are at serious risk of going away? Brands from all three domestic automakers have been bandied about this week, and with 112 models offered from 15 brands just from the three domestic automakers, the industry clearly needs some fat trimmed. The three U.S. automakers now have only a 47% market share in the U.S., down from 62% just five years ago. Just imagine the design, engineering and support a complex product portfolio like that requires in terms of investment. Is that sustainable? Apparently not, and the big three are fighting for their lives in part because of it.
Right off the bat is General Motors Corp.'s (NYSE: GM) Hummer brand. The king of masculine brands has shriveled into virtual nothingness over the past year as consumers stayed away due to higher gas prices, which have now fallen heavily back down. Still, the damage to Hummer is most likely irreversible, and it will be one of GM's first brands to go away. Ford Motor Corp.'s (NYSE: F) luxury Volvo brand is also a prime contender. Volvo sales have fallen 28% this year as customers flock to lower-priced vehicles while tightening those wallets and purse strings.
GM may also be taking a hard look at its European Saab brand, as well as its domestic Pontiac and Saturn brands. Saturn was a great idea 15 years ago, but not any longer. It was never marketed as a GM product, something that has come back to hurt it a bit due to its drag on GM's bottom line.
How about Pontiac? The sports-oriented brand in many ways is a clone of Chevy vehicles, but with different skins. Still, the ax could fall on it, just as GM rid itself of the Oldsmobile brand years ago (a brand the world has not missed at all). Both brands ended up being perceived as niche-y, and an automobile "for every purse and purpose" just won't cut it in 2009 going forward. Sorry, Alfred Sloan.
Ford may even consider getting rid of its Mercury brand as well, and would just then have the Ford and Lincoln brands under its domestic belt. Chrysler may even jettison every brand except its own namesake brand and Jeep (would we really miss Dodge?). In these harsh economic times, anything will go -- and you can bet that some brands we've all come to know will be vanishing forever very soon.











Reader Comments (Page 1 of 26)
12-05-2008 @ 11:56AM
Casey said...
I am sure it is wise to jettison some of these brands, but, why should Chrysler be bailed out at all? The quality and durability of its cars are on par with the "great Yugo"!
Who needs such a junky car when there are so many very reliable brands around?
Let them file for bankruptcy and don't waste bailout money on them.
12-07-2008 @ 9:08AM
Ray said...
There is obviously a lot of pain to come for the automakers as well as the rest of the market. this won't be over any time soon.
Great post, keep up the great work!
http://rays-stock-world.blogspot.com
12-05-2008 @ 12:46PM
KKH said...
Mr. White
You are as bad as the ill-informed members of Congress when it comes to the automotive industry.
Case in point:"How about Pontiac? The sports-oriented brand in many ways is a clone of Chevy vehicles, but with different skins."
Since you've supposedly done your homework before writing this article, please share what Pontiac's share the same platforms with Chevrolet?
The G8- RWD from GM Australia so a big Nope
The G6-Nope
Vibe-Built at NUMMI, another big Nope
Solstice-the Saturn Sky, yes. Chevy a big Nope
GTO-Another import from GM Australia so another big Nope
G5-Finally a yes, shares platform with the Cobalt
Torrent-Wow another yes, shares platform w/Chevy Equinox.
So only two out seven Pontiac vehicles actually shares a platform with Chevrolet.
And as far as your statement, "GM may also be taking a hard look at its European Saab brand, as well as its domestic Pontiac and Saturn brands" there is no may about it and is old news as the GM Long Term Viability Plan submitted to Congress on 12/2 clearly outlines all of these possibilities, so do not pretend this is your "opinion" or "idea".
My advice to you, write an article about something you have knowledge or a clue about.
12-05-2008 @ 1:11PM
Brian said...
Um -- I never said nor inferred that Pontiac or Chevy share technical platforms. Customers could care less about where a car is built or what platform it shares with anything else. Technical perfectionists care, but nobody else does (the proof is in sales, right?).
What they do care about is the same or very similar car in a different skin. Is the G5 the same as the Cobalt? How about the G8 and the Impala? There are several cars that are -- to the consumer -- so similar between Pontiac and Chevy that it's just market saturation with very little differentiation except for window dressing. Who cares where it is built and if it shares anything with any other GM model?
In a way, GM's model that produces so much of "the same thing" on different platforms and with different plants and needless different designs is a part of why it's falling apart. U.S. consumers don't need 115 models from three manufacturers. Those days are over, big-time.
12-05-2008 @ 1:16PM
Financial Cents said...
No need to discuss which 15 brands should be cut. All 3 automakers will eventually fail along with 250,000+ jobs eliminated with or without the bailout. It's just reality, folks.
http://financial-cents.blogspot.com/2008/12/peter-schiff-let-gm-and-other.html
12-05-2008 @ 1:44PM
Gary E. Sattler said...
If I was in the auto selling business, I'd be considering a career change right about now.
12-05-2008 @ 1:48PM
KKH said...
I will not argue the point if there is commonality between brands at GM, as there is. But, to compare a Pontiac G8 with an Chevy Impala is absurd. Link to Motor Trends article expousing the virtues of the G8 RWD (with photo)
http://www.motortrend.com/features/auto_news/2008/112_0806_2009_pontiac_g8_gxp_first_look/index.html
and a link to the Chevy Impala FWD (with photo's).
http://www.chevrolet.com/impala/photogallery/
One is RWD, one is FWD and please show me where these two vehicles look anything alike.
My point is if you are going to attempt to make a point, please know or understand what you are talking about. In addition by not referencing GM's Long Term Viability Plan in the potential elimination of certain brands you allude that these are your ideas or opinions, which is false. Last but not least the Hummer brand has been on the block for sale by GM for nearly 9 months and is not an earth shattering revelation on your part. My original statement stands, you know nothing of what you speak.
12-05-2008 @ 1:52PM
Brian said...
Thanks for 'your' viewpoint, KKH.
12-05-2008 @ 2:09PM
lance said...
Didn't obama say there would be help to keep people working?Or did he say that Americans can lose there jobs and he doesn't care.
Here is the change he promised - NO WORK FOR AMERICANS
12-05-2008 @ 2:12PM
KKH said...
Brian
Your sarcasm aside, you're welcome. In my humble opinion, stick to the techie and internet stories as I enjoy your insight and knowledge in that arena.
Keith
12-05-2008 @ 2:13PM
Melonie said...
I own a HUMMER H3. It is EXCELLENT on gas milage and a GREAT built vehicle. I can't imagine owning anything else. I have owned every truck there is. The HUMMER dealership I use in Shawnee Mission, KS are EXCELLENT in taking care of me and my HUMMER. Thank You
12-05-2008 @ 2:15PM
daddyodog said...
Not the Saturns ! Say it ain't so !
Those are some of the best cars GM has ever produced.
I would think GM would take what it has learned from this collaboration with Toyota and use it in future models.
12-05-2008 @ 2:16PM
Linda said...
Get this straight - cars do not "disappear" or vaporize off the earth just because some green geeks want them gone. Let's hear some actual solutions to what happens to all the cars they want to get rid of - - are they going to buy them from the owners (at no loss to the owner - you have to pay off their loan balances); recycle every single piece of them; dump them in the sea; send them into space........well????? This idea that people just have to "give them up" and they'll magically disappear is so mush brained juvenile...........
12-05-2008 @ 2:19PM
jeana said...
I own a 2003 Toyota Rav4. Last year I decided to buy a 2008 Rav4. When I went to the dealership, I noticed the car was much larger than my 2003. The dealer told me Toyota made the Rav4 18 inches longer and 18 inches wider. When I asked why, he said that people wanted larger cars. This is before the gas went up to $4.23 a gallon. Of course I did not buy a new car. I will wait until the Rav4 goes back to being a small SUV.
12-05-2008 @ 2:23PM
Aaron said...
Perhaps the US auto makers can do a joint venture with companies like Honda or Toyota which employ TQM (Total Quality Management) practices.
12-05-2008 @ 2:29PM
jay said...
HEY,,personaly im happy that these big car makers are going under, i wish it had been done sooner,they make all these cars and if your so stupid in not to see that every where you go,the car lots and these big car dealships the cars just sit there,because they wont let someone that needs a car and maybe has a low credit score cant get one, so i pray to god thery all go under,why should a sore on some stupid credit score keep people from getting a car they want and its always the rich that get them,like bushes new home,i say bye bye mr.car maker that wont give up their jets and high priced hotels and resorts that they only can go to and we the tax payer cant, and cant even get their cars they make and way to many of them,lol thank god im so happy,,
12-05-2008 @ 2:30PM
KKH said...
Aaron
Goggle NUMMI, joint venture between Toyota and GM, which has been in existence since 1984
12-05-2008 @ 2:37PM
john fuller said...
WHY IS THE GOVERMENT BAILING OUT PRIVATE INDUSTRY ,?. THEY GOT THERE SELFS IN TROUBLE , THE GOVERMENT WON T BAIL THE TAXS PAYERS OUT IF THEY TAKE IF THEY GET IN TROUBLE .????????????????
12-05-2008 @ 2:32PM
joe said...
piss on the big three watch how fast them companys come up with the money if the goverment says no!
12-05-2008 @ 2:39PM
Bart said...
Blame it on the Billions that goes to NASCAR with NO RETURN to the "Big 3".After all the cars today are FWD, the new COT car of NASCAR is RWD. Different everthing, don't even look a like any more they. The old motto was win on Sunday Sell them on Monday now gone. Most people now days can't afford a ticket to a NASCAR race. So why spent BILLIONS in a market not making it to the working classs people. Cut off NASCAR and solve your own money problems.P.S. I'm a NASCAR fan, not a Brain France fan.