This is a continuation of yesterday's story Auto support fund: foreign governments help.General Motors (NYSE: GM), Ford (NYSE: F), privately held Chrysler and the UAW are in need, but help is not forthcoming with the same vigor that we have helped other industries or other nations help their industries.
One reason is that we Americans feel very strongly that government should stay out of our lives. We not only believe in separation of church and state, but business and state. Perhaps on both counts we are pretending. Everything is all mixed up. When government allows a church to collect money and not pay taxes that sounds to me like the government is subsidizing the church. When government adjusts the tax structure for cars and insists a certain percentage be made or assembled in the United States, the same is true.
I do not believe the "bailout" is a bailout, I believe it is loan that is being considered so that our leaders, on all sides, will have the time to create longer term solutions. I also believe the amount of money in question while very substantial, it is not so, with respect to everything else that is going on right now.
Detroit is producing some very good cars and those that think they are not are mistaken. The cars being made today are superior to their predecessors in quality of fit and finish, mileage, performance, safety, and warranties, but they have had to live with tarnished reputations for a while, and it is true that some of their products do not measure up to their competitors.
Perhaps the biggest problem for Detroit and the UAW is that the union by its very nature makes the companies less competitive because it makes them less agile.
We are not seeing much agility from Washington either so as I stated in my first story on the subject Auto industry bailout: A bloated government to lead a bloated industry maybe I have come full circle.
Clearly the automobile manufacturers and the UAW have contributed to the current state of their industry. However, since ALL car companies are suffering the same fate, today's crises, and it is a crises, can more accurately be laid at the doorstep of our less great financial institutions and the federal government, both legislative and administrative branches for such poor supervision of the Wall Street play pen.
Sheldon Liber is the CEO of a small private investment company and the principal for design and research at an architecture and planning firm. He writes the columns Chasing Value and Serious Money. Disclosure: I do not own shares of GM or Ford.











Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
12-16-2008 @ 12:10PM
M Mackin said...
You do not think Japan and China subsidze their auto companies? Who is the number 1 shareholder of Toyota? Funny, you can find this out about GM and Ford easily, why not Chinese and Japan companies? We subsidize them buy allowing them to force us to make parts for our products, i.e. wings for 787. Japan(Nippon Air) would not buy 50 of the Boeing 787 airplan unless they (Japan) build the wings. Do you think they get billions of dollars worth of R&D that we paid for by forcing us to give the technology to them?
I say, we (American companies,not Japanese transplant parts companies) build all the parts for the Prius - turnabout is fair play.
12-16-2008 @ 12:19PM
Elliot Stein said...
The government is going to take steps to assist (bail-out, loan?) the U.S. owned Big 3; this is a given. The real question is what do these companies need to do to be viable over the next 5-20 years. But we do need to sperate thew private equity owned Chrysler from the publicly owned Ford and GM.
The key priorities are for all three are:
1. Clean up the Balance Sheets. Easier said than done. But all of the debt holders will have to take a severe haircut in return for equity. And spo will the dealer organizations, consolidations and closings.
2. Improve cash flow so that revenue flows to product development and marketing, rather than debt service. An improved Balance Sheet will help (less debt and debt service), but the auto workers will have to take a hit in terms of numbers and pay. Goodbye to job fund, etc. But the pension transfer should include significant equity to align the workers opportunity with the companies' goals.
3. The companies will have to look very different. Less brands, more consolidated dealerships, and the most attractive parts of Chrysler will have to be merged with with either GM or Ford. Again, Cerberus takes the biggest hit. It is the nature of private equity to leverage and gamble, and they lost this one.
4. Lastly, GM and Ford will have to rely more on their European and Asian operations to produce revenue, car design (better mileage), and a push to new technologioes. The US market should be recognized for what it now is, a minority of the car buying marketplace.
This is not a 3 month endeavor, but it needs to start now in exchange for government assistance.
12-16-2008 @ 12:53PM
Troy said...
The arguments for not bailing out the auto makers are many and valid. High labor costs and concessions with labor unions have put the car makers in inefficient positions, with average workers costing the auto makers $74-$76 per hour. They get extreme coverage of everything from medical to unemployment and absenteeism. No amount of bail out fixes union extortion. Executive pay of millions for multiple tiers is almost criminal. Instead of bail out or loans, provide a 10% tax credit for those buying autos. This will stimulate the auto market immediately, but not pick winners and losers. IT will not benefit the inefficient, and if bankruptcy occurs, it is not the loss of the company, but an opportunity to free up their obligations to renegotiate union agreements, in order to get to a position where they can efficiently produce and compete. This deduction was used in 1982 with the recession, but was limited to business vehicles, then was used again in 2003 by tax write offs for business investments up to $75,000 in autos, and equipment. Results were positive each time.
12-17-2008 @ 12:11PM
Ronda said...
I wish you could see these arguments from the inside of the automakers like I do. As a 13-yr union employee of one of the Big 3, I would like to tell you some of the facts. Union members have taken pay cuts over the last 3 yrs in the form of COLA reductions and no hourly pay increases to help fund the VEBA health care plan that ensures that our retirees will have health care coverage when they need it the most. These cuts work out to be around $4-5/hr. per employee. The retirees paved the way with hard work and sometimes, their own blood (anyone recall the "sitdowners" of the Flint strike should understand what I am talking about) to allow us to have what we have now. In my plant, there is one salary person for every six hourly people on the floor. We have 3-4 layers of management for every 24 people in a dept. Talk about micro-management! The number of mgrs. has remained the same although the number of hourly people has been reduced from 4500 to less than 1300. While we are taking cuts in health care and overall pay, the "$76/hr" figure keeps getting rolled out by the media, even though it is currently more like $45-55 total cost of pay and benefits, very musch in line with Toyota and Honda, VW and Nissan, all who pay their employees in the $25-30/hr plus benefits.
Lastly, this is back-breaking, dangerous work that can't be appreciated by standing on the sidelines and observing the video bites, also as seen by the media. I have spent my days shoveling literally tons of sand, standing on a platform for hours at a time loading parts weighing up to 40 lbs. onto a belt, hoisting those same parts and others weighing 60-80 lbs. a piece from a tub to a grinding machine at a rate of 1 every 50 sec. and unloading the same parts when done. If you think it's easy, you won't think so after 5 yrs., or even a year when you wake up in the morning and you can't feel your hands. It is called dirty work for a reason. Please cut us blue-collar folks some slack!!
P.S. - I am a 40-yr. old woman that can hold her own with any man in this field. I don't ask for slack and will keep up or surpass any person I work with and proud of it. I am blessed to be able to work hard and proud of what I do!
12-17-2008 @ 4:04PM
ELECTRICRIC said...
LET ME REPEAT MYSELF. GM HAS HIGH LEGACY COSTS. MAYBE WE (UAW) SHOULD ABANON THE 700,000 RETIREES. THEY ARE OLD AND RICH REPUBLICANS.
NAFTA AND THE REPUBLICANS HAVE SHAFTED US.THANKS AGAIN FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT AND THANK YOU TO THOSE WHO BUY GM. WE BUILD THE BEST CARS WE CAN FOR AMERICA.