MassMutual became the latest big investor to admit losing money because of Bernard Madoff.According to Wall Street Journal, the company's Tremont Financial Group lost $3 billion -- more than half of its assets -- because of Madoff's $50 billion scam. Then there's the problem of disclosure.
"Tremont marketing documents did not always disclose the relationship between Mr. Madoff and the feeder funds, even when mentioning other investment managers," the paper said.
So let me get this straight: MassMutual entrusted some of its investors' money to one of the supposed geniuses of Wall Street and did not want anyone to know? Maybe the company did not want its customers to know that it was collecting fees that it did not really earn. I suspect many aggrieved investors will sue. I sympathize with their plight, ,but I do not feel sorry for people who invested with Madoff directly.
Many Madoff customers turned a blind eye to many red flags that should have sent them running for the hills. First of all, no one understood the Madoff's "investing philosophy." Questions about his strategy went unanswered.
They, like many victims of Ponzi schemes, figured that if Steven Spielberg, Yeshiva University and a host of other Wall Street bigshots liked this guy Madoff, he must be alright. They believed that Madoff never had a down year even during down markets, which even people who don't know the difference between a stock and a bond know is impossible.
The scheme was ingenious. The low double-digit returns Madoff showed were believable enough to fool most investors. His fraud only unraveled when people started to ask for their money because of the volatile stock market.
Because of its duration, odds are that Madoff is not telling the truth that he acted alone. Ponzi scheme organizers usually take the rap themselves to avoid getting their family members in trouble. His sons have said they knew nothing about the scheme. Authorities are probing the relationship between Madoff's niece Shana and a former SEC attorney, according to the Journal.
The Madoff scandal offers an important lesson for investors courtesy of our mothers: if it seems too good to be true, chances are that it is.
Reader Comments (Page 3 of 3)
12-22-2008 @ 9:12PM
Richard said...
Kathy, sorry. I meant Norwegian.
12-22-2008 @ 9:15PM
hof said...
REALITY: CAVIET EMPTOR.....BUYER BEWARE....
THE GREED OF THE NAIVE BUYERS, CHASING UNREALISTIC RETURNS, WHO DID NOT DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE....CAUSES THEM TO BE EQUALLY GREEDY, AND STUPID.
SORRY....DOODOO HAPPENS.
12-22-2008 @ 9:28PM
R.MCKENZIE said...
HANG 'EM!
12-22-2008 @ 9:44PM
Larkin said...
wHERES the bail-out for the common-workin man ? You are gonna run aground bailin out every companie that starts cryin for a bail out and the taxpayer will never get its bailout because all the greedy,greasy,tigh-wad,theifin companies will suck it all up !!
12-22-2008 @ 10:24PM
MARK GLENDINNNG said...
Bernie and his investers are extremeley astute. These are mostly high end investors that made a lot of money on a lot of return on their investments and were whistling dixie when times were good. Now they are crying. BUT! Guess what? Tax writeoffs. Do we, the bail-out taxpayers get a write off? I don't think so. The supposed losers in this are the winners.
Things are come to a head and we taxpayers are the losers.
Anarchy? Man, it could happen, God forbid!
Marko
12-22-2008 @ 10:26PM
BRET said...
You people don't see the big pic. Everybody loses! This is just the beginning! Mccain was the fall guy. Obama was bought and paid for, for one reason. To keep the blacks and all the white losers calm. 1)Get in shape 2)Learn to use a weapon 3)Rid yourself of any fears 4)Learn to live like they did 200 years ago. Good luck, your on your own.
12-22-2008 @ 11:14PM
brian said...
The sad thing is they will never face real punishment, look at Konrad Black, every body has forgoten about him now a new guy is on the front page, and soon it will be some one else and this guy will be forgoten. The government is a joke if they think one or two guys are responisble for all these scams, the is an army behind each one. All crimes and criminals have one thing working for them...time,in time people forget what has happend because the system, people in charge and governments allow this to happen. yet smoke a dooby on main st and get thrown in jail for five years....ANARCHY1
12-23-2008 @ 12:22AM
Rothay said...
I disagree with the author of this article when he says, "The scheme was ingenious. The low double-digit returns Madoff showed were believable enough to fool most investors." Double-digit interest is low? Really. In most instances, it is unheard of. Only the greedy seek anything less than double-digit, and even 8% or 9%. No, the for-the-most-part avaricious investors in these hedge funds, exclusive "clubs" for only the wealthy, even if their money is retirement money, wanted more than a low investment, they simply wanted more - and more. They didn't want to know or believe anything negative about Madoff because they WERE getting more. The title "celebrity" as in Spielgberg, means nothing. They were all equal in greedily reaching for double-digit returns. I have no sympathy for them. One big investor in an interview said she would like to ask Madoff why? I wanted to answer her, "For the same reason as yours: greed." He lived high on the hog, a pillar of the Palm Beach society, with a yacht and homes and guess what else? Some of the money funded all that. Many entertainers and athletes and whatever have frittered away millions, so given the more than 9 years of high living that Madoff enjoyed, billions are not beyond the realm of imagination. He was a crook who kept an exclusive group of clients. The only requirement, qualification, was extreme wealth - and add on a greedy mentality. Given the fact, too, that wealth was what got people into these funds, you cannot feel any more sympathetic for those who put their life savings into this scam in order to live a serene and comfortable retirement, because they were part of the common denominator: sufficient wealth to induce Madoff to put them on the hook with those with billions. They are all equal victims, and were equally greedy. Low double-digit returns? Say what?
12-23-2008 @ 12:40AM
David Shannon said...
Greed has its price. Everyone needs to take personal responsibility for their actions. If the deal seems too good to be true...it probably is. Understand it, research it, and always error on the side of conservatism when making a decision. You may not become fabuously wealthy but you won't become fabuously broke.
12-23-2008 @ 12:46AM
Ron Johnson said...
Madoff is not a bad guy, beside the Union Officials, the bankers, the investment houses and all the big company's that pay the large bonus to their top people who create no new profit but protect not loosing any larger percentage than they lost last year. Hell,maybe he is a saint in todays market. I still think that ole Bernie Ebber's didn't know what was going on at WORLD COM even though he was the CEO. Oh well, O. J. got away with it the first time.
12-23-2008 @ 2:38AM
Wendy said...
Lowering interest rates makes investing in the stock market, or any other vehicle besides a savings account, the only option - Wall Street flim flam men want our money and will go to any length to get it.
12-23-2008 @ 5:37AM
Mike Wichrowski said...
They need to make a "hard" lesson on this piece of shit and his kind once and for all!
12-23-2008 @ 6:06AM
zaaana said...
Why not consider these acts --- as acts of "Economic Terrorism" --- and, subject these "fat cats" to the "Same Treatment" as is being met out to those suspected of "Conspiring to Commit" an act of "Terrorism."
12-23-2008 @ 6:55AM
Jayhawk said...
It must have been more fraud than Ponzi scheme.
After all, corporate and state pension funds are Ponzi schemes depending on new younger investors coming into the "plan" So is Social Security a Ponzi scheme by depending on new inputers to pay out retirees. As Leno pointd out.
1-20-2009 @ 12:12PM
James Raider said...
LEARNING FROM BERNIE MADOFF
WHAT IF .... a letter written by Bernie Madoff explaining himself was discovered?
--
http://pacificgatepost.blogspot.com/2009/01/bernie-madoff-letter-of-explanation.html
-
….in his own words?