Welcome to Way Off Wall Street, a column dedicated to providing Main Street opinions on topics of interest to investors. Each installment highlights the views of Americans who are far removed from the canyons of Wall Street -- and who often see things more clearly as a result.After reading nearly 400 publicly posted reader comments regarding the Bernard Madoff Ponzi scandal, I believe that I may have a good feel for the grass roots mood on the subject. In a nutshell, the average American internet crawler is thoroughly disgusted with our financial system and its regulatory agencies. They are fed up, strung out and unequivocally irate. As for Bernard Madoff himself, the overwhelming assertion is that he should be strung up immediately. That sentiment is not meant in a figurative sense either. People want Bernard Madoff publicly hanged, and they want it done with much fanfare in a place such as New York City's Central Park. Yes, this sounds rather coarse. Perhaps it's even uncivilized, but as the internet is my witness, this is what people are saying.
Very few of the comments I have read indicate a feeling that Madoff's investors simply got what they deserved. I did, however, read many statements regarding the fact that high level greed obviously forced many large eggs into one very questionable basket. I myself have not much pity for those investors who lost "everything" to Madoff's twisted dealings. It is my opinion that if investors don't have the sense to diversify, and thereby somewhat protect themselves, they are not very deserving of much wealth. Even my own paltry savings reside in no less than five separate accounts, however paltry.
The one factor in this Ponzi scandal that currently has most internet readers angered, is the fact that Bernie Madoff has been sent home to lick his wounds, rather than being stuffed into a proper jail cell. Some people say that given his financial means, Madoff presents the greatest of flight risks. Most people simply believe that he deserves to be housed in as dark and dank a spot as we can provide for him. The masses are grumbling that Madoff has too many connections to powerful people, and that is why he is being treated so well. Personally, I think he should be handled at least as firmly as Martha Stewart was. Then, we should add a punishment multiplication factor in keeping with the scope and volume of his misdeeds.
The overwhelming concern being voiced by readers of Madoff-inspired articles is the possibility that this Madoff scandal is simply the tip of a much larger iceberg. Reader assertions include multiple allegations of deep corruption within the SEC, continued fraud within the mortgage banking industry, and phantom investment fund balances. The first factor that sends up a big red flag in support of these allegations is the fact that asset declarations made available by Madoff are now being kept tightly confidential. Many comments assert that this level of confidentiality is being maintained to protect Madoff's accomplices. Many comments state that the confidentiality is meant to deny revelation of where the money actually went. What ever the truth may be, it seems crazy to me that Madoff is being allowed to generate his own asset declarations. The man has made it clear that he has absolutely no regard for the veracity of financial documentation.
Perhaps the most disconcerting facet of this entire exercise is the fact that while most people want Bernard Madoff severely punished and stripped of all his assets, most people also believe that he will avoid any prison time for what he has done. The prevailing assumption is that very little of the embezzled money remains liquid, and therefore it will be difficult and expensive to return it to investors. Alternatively, many readers believe that Bernie Madoff has successfully squirreled the money away somewhere unreachable. In either case, I believe that these losses are far more widespread than we know right now. We need to remember that government entities of all sizes invest in these kinds of funds. I think the $50 billion figure might just be a smoke screen for something much larger. Let's hope that I'm wrong.











Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
1-06-2009 @ 9:04PM
Bernie said...
If they sold tickets to the public hanging along with the requisite concessions I believe they could generate substantial capital. Maybe it could pay for some of the shit that the financial institutions have cost us the past year.
:)
1-06-2009 @ 10:02PM
cipher said...
Why blame Madoff? Isn't the United States capitalist system based on the same Ponzi, Pyramid scheme? Isn't that way there is a pyramid on the back of the U.S. currency? So, what's the uproar all about? It is the only system (scheme, scam?) U.S. citizens have known, so explain to me the difference between Madoff and the Federal Reserve~ especially with deregulation and Congressional authorization. Such a wonderful deal ~ live with it ~ our legislators voted for it!
1-07-2009 @ 12:10PM
BHarrisono said...
The basic investigative principle is to: "FOLLOW THE MONEY . . ." and see where it leads, right?
Congress has tacitly failed to provide or reqire the FIs and corporations who have received "bailout monies" to provide FULL DISCLOSURE and TRANSPARENCY in regard to the use of these monies . . . AND actually, under the existing market conditions ALL corporations listed on the stock markets whould be required to provide FULL DISCLOSURE and TRANSPARENCY of their financial reports.
Without this, there can be no faith and confidence or INTEGRITY in the markets or the corporations.
Likewise, with the Madoff Ponzi scandal, suddenly there is a "veil of confidentiality" cast over these matters by our government agencies. Any such "secrecy" and/or confidentiality can ONLY be perceived as being nefarious attempts to protect other guilty individuals and interests involved in this fraud.
This type of decit by our government regulatory agencies cannot be tolerated; and any regulator who attempts such actions should be summarialy charged with either misfeasance or malfeasance . . . and should be fired and indicted. We, the people, will not tolerate such abuses of our right to know.
Our government . . . Congress and the regualtory agencies . . . have, for too long been the stooges for the special interests groups. The INTEGRITY of the markets and corporations requires FULL DISCLOSURES and TRANSPARENCY, subject to professional and publc scrutiny to ferret out the frauds and unsound business practices that have caused the collapse of our economic system.
1-07-2009 @ 12:11PM
The Lounge said...
I agree that it is not in an investor's best interest to put all of your eggs in one basket.....It's hard to imagine having as much wealth as some of these investors who have lost everything...call it greed or 'having more money than sense'.
What scares me the most is that our entire Social Security system is a giant ponzi scheme, with the difference being the government forces us to pay in !
1-07-2009 @ 12:15PM
sharegyan said...
Hi,
Once again after crash Nifty has started going up. Now we suggest all rises should be used as an opportunity to exit old long positions.
This bull run will continue for few more days. Overall market is in bearish mood as in medium term its just a small rally due to short covering
and result season.
Happy Trading,
ShareGyan
1-08-2009 @ 10:32PM
wendyatlanta said...
I would like to ask a couple of basic questions. This guy is 70 years old. What is to be gained by him keeping silent and not speaking to the press?
By not speaking out, his name will be tarred forever such as Ponzi's is.
Would it not be better for him to be completely open, accept whatever punishment is in store and help to restore the family name instead of hiding behind a phalanx of lawyers.
1-15-2009 @ 7:33AM
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1-24-2009 @ 11:31PM
chiefagc said...
wendyatlanta- Since his own family members were among those he stole from do you really think he gives a shit about the family name? He's scum and should be sent to prison until his miserable life ends. I have no money involved.
3-13-2009 @ 5:45AM
rgc364 said...
madoff should receive bread and water and 4 to the cell sleeping accomadations!