Everyone knew that the government's "cash for clunkers" program would be enticing to potential auto buyers, but no one, including the U.S. government could have predicted just how popular the program would be. Auto makers and dealers have seen a vast response to the program, but now some dealers are starting to wonder when the government is going to keep its end of the deal, and have decided to remove themselves from the popular program.
A group of New York area auto dealers have decided to pull out of the program, stating that they could no longer afford to give the rebates. The Greater New York Automobile Dealers Association reported that about half of its 425 New York dealers will no longer participate in the program.
Sure, the program was far more popular that anyone could have envisioned, but that hardly justifies that lack of payments that these dealers have received back from the government. Sure, it is reasonable that repayments would be lower than expected considering the program's popularity, but the fact that dealerships have been paid for only 2% of their clunkers deals seems incredibly low.
The fact that the payments have been so slow have created two main problems. The first is that dealers are starting to wonder whether or not they will ever see the money. The second problem is that a lot of these dealerships simply do not have any more cash to use for the program.
Under the "cash for clunkers" program, dealerships pay the incentive, up to $4,500 per vehicle, out of their pockets, and then have to wait for the government to reimburse them. With no money coming back in, it is easy to understand what the dealers are starting to show concern.
This is definitely the nasty side of the program, which by all accounts has given a nice boost to all the major auto companies, including the big 3 American companies which have really been struggling as of late.
This month Ford Motor Company (NYSE: F) and General Motors have already announced that they are going to be boosting production in the latter part of the year in order to keep up with demand.
The Obama administration is aware of the late payments, but assures dealers that their money is coming. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood, stated that he is aware of dealers' frustrations, but the money is on the way, and the Obama administration will be announcing shortly how much longer the program will continue.
According to Edmunds.com, the program is definitely nearing its end. It reported today that low inventories, rising prices, and dealers worrying about their money are creating a scenario where the program is about out of steam. Last week there was a 15% drop in interest in the program, an indicator that the majority of consumers that are going to take advantage of the program already have done so.
So far about $1.81 billion worth of the program has been "spent", out of a total $3 billion, resulting in 435,102 new car sales.
Did you take advantage of the program? If not, do you plan to do so before the program is closed? What are your overall thoughts on the "cash for clunkers" program?











Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
8-19-2009 @ 6:37PM
Jesse said...
I think we should let the government run HealthCare, too, , NOT!
Why do people chant "Give me more SOCIALISM, we want more SOCIALISM."? Even the president says we MUST have more socialism NOW.
Do the schools not teach history?
8-19-2009 @ 8:37PM
thedude said...
The problem is that people don't realize how much this little "program" is going to cost them in their taxes
Scumocrats must GO !!!!
or are they Dumbocrats or maybe just Spendocrats, either way they must GO !!
8-19-2009 @ 10:21PM
Customlawnil said...
This is just another consequence of the mistake that was made in the 2008 election. No leadership, no experience in running anything. Less government is on the way starting in 2010 and 2012.
8-20-2009 @ 8:30AM
Gail said...
Anything that government runs, typically fails. Another group probably disfatisfied with O schemes. Now they want to take over our healthcare?!! And who pays for it. US.
8-25-2009 @ 4:27PM
Bob said...
I am a used car dealer, cash for clunkers just took good vehicles out of the market that we could sell to keep our business alive. Some of the vehicles are still good running vehicles, it is a shame to junk them. I gess it was good for the govt. to help the manufactors, but stay out of dealer side of it. they have helped the new vehicle dealers but created a problem on the used car side. WHERE IS THE COMMON SENSE OR DOESEN'T THE GOVT. CARE.
8-31-2009 @ 1:31PM
Patsy Rivera said...
You may have heard of the government's new "Cash for Clunkers" program but do you know all the facts?
Friday, August 21, 2009 Update: Informed sources are projecting that the total $3 billion directed to Cash for Clunkers will be fully expended by Monday and the program will be winding down at that point. Some projections indicate that 700,000 new car sales, including a Cash for Clunkers component, are on the books or will be by Monday. There's some talk of more funding for Cash for Clunkers, but with congress out of session until after labor day, that can not be immediate. Naturally, it will be some months before the car dealers themselves are fully reimbursed for qualified Cash for Clunkers purchases through the program.
Proponents call it a win win for the environment and the economy and the charities we represent indicate that a slow down in car donation proceeds (if any) has not been as severe as some had initially projected. Volume of car donations for us has been flat and a modest 7.5% decline in gross resale prices of donated cars seems to be the average.
Cash for Clunkers (the Car Allowance Rebate System act, also known as CARS), was recently passed by congress and signed by President Obama. It is an innovative new program designed to get gas-guzzling cars off the roads and motivate people to drive more fuel efficient cars. It is intended to replace older vehicles with new ones that are safer and pollute less. Supporters claim it will help jump-start auto sales and the U.S. economy, while also providing environmental benefits and increasing energy security.
How it works: to be eligible for $3,500 or $4,500 worth of federal money (some terms vary for trucks).
* Your vehicle must be less than 25 years old on the trade-in date
* Only the purchase or lease of new vehicles will qualify you for the federal funding
* Trade-in vehicles must get 18 miles or less per gallon
* Vehicles must be in driving condition, plus registered and insured for the full year prior to the trade-in
* The bill is intended to be a boost to struggling car dealers and anybody who wants a new compact or hybrid, and to help the environment, and who wouldn't support that? Unfortunately, this legislation won't help everyone. Here are some reasons that will prevent many people from taking advantage of the Cash for Clunkers program:
The gas mileage rates are so low that only very poor mileage cars like SUVs or trucks will qualify. Those who do qualify have to buy or lease a new car to get the money; just getting rid of an old junker gets you nothing with Cash for Clunkers. If the value of your trade in is more than $3,500 or $4,500 then you don't get any additional money from the government.
The Cash for Clunkers legislation, as originally written, covered "approved" clunker vehicles for new car purchases from July 1st to November 1, 2009. For technical reasons re-determining what cars would qualify, the start date was subsequently delayed from July 1st to July 24th. Car dealers and legislators were all very surprised at the huge initial response such that by midnight, July 30th, the program was halted given the projection that the initial one billion dollars of funding had been all used up by vehicle purchases that are already in the system. The House of Representatives acted very quickly and the next day, July 31st (the last day of the congressional session prior to the August recess) passed a two billion dollar refunding of Cash for Clunkers. The Senate, with the same extraordinary speed, passed the same bill, Thursday, August 6th barely a couple hours before they also went on summer recess at midnight. Now, President Obama has signed it and the program can be restarted very soon. Stay tuned to this site for breaking news on this topic. Some proponents suggest that even with the additional two billion dollars in funding that the program will again run out of money long before November and that additional funding should be provided.
Fortunately, if you don't meet all the criteria for getting the Cash for Clunkers payout, you still have other good options for getting rid of your old car. Vehicles that don't qualify for Cash for Clunkers are still ideal car donations. When you donate cars, trucks, vans, RVs, boats or even real estate you get rid of your unwanted property, help a non-profit of your choice, and itemizing taxpayers get a write-off.
Hundreds of charities do invaluable work all across the country, and car donation funds are an important part of their revenue stream. Pete Palmer, co-founder of The Vehicle Donation Processing Center, Inc., states that his company "assists more than 400 charities who do great work and depend on car donation to pay for it. We handle it for them and in so doing we've put more than sixty million dollars in their hands -- net-net, after all expenses were paid. Every penny of that sixty million dollars went to charities for their charitable missions."
Now during tough economic times many people want to take advantage of every opportunity for a little extra income, however some Cash for Clunker qualifiers might find the extra dollars are outweighed by other benefits of donating a vehicle to a charitable organization via one of the reputable car donation organizations.
* You will feel good about helping a worthwhile cause
* Some car donation companies offer free vehicle pick-up
* Many will take any vehicle, running or not
* Plus the tax write-off for itemizing taxpayers.
* And to thank you for deciding to donate your car to charity, instead of participating in the Cash for Clunkers program -- when you donate your car to one of our 400+ fine charities -- just tell your operator you'd like the $300 Free Grocery or Gasoline Rebate when you make arrangements with us for the free car donation pick up.
A vehicle donation political coalition is reaching out to Congress to get a bill passed that makes car donation even more attractive. The passage of U.S. House of Representatives Resolution 571 will help the situation by reinstituting some of the tax benefits for vehicle donation to charities which were withdrawn by Congress in 2004. Accompanied by the economic downturn, those limitations have resulted in an average 52% reduction in vehicle donations according to industry sources. Currently, taxpayers are only allowed to deduct the fair market value up to a maximum of $500 or what the charity sells the car for, whichever is greater. Under HR 571 taxpayers would be allowed to ascertain and deduct the Fair Market Value up to $2500 for their car donation, and the appraised value over $2500. As of the end of June this bill is showing promise and has been co-sponsored by twenty Representatives from both sides of the aisle and every region of the country.
It's important for the public to realize that Cash for Clunkers is not the best answer for everyone. Learn more about Car Donation and charities it supports.