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<generator>Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/</generator><item><title><![CDATA[Alibaba, IPOs and Communists]]></title><link>http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2007/11/06/alibaba-ipos-and-communists/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2007/11/06/alibaba-ipos-and-communists/</guid><comments>http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2007/11/06/alibaba-ipos-and-communists/#comments</comments><description><![CDATA[<p>Filed under: <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/internet/" rel="tag">Internet</a>, <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/goog/" rel="tag">Google (GOOG)</a>, <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/yhoo/" rel="tag">Yahoo! (YHOO)</a>, <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/initial-public-offerings/" rel="tag">Initial Public Offerings</a></p><p><img vspace="4" hspace="4" border="" align="right" alt="" src="http://www.blogcdn.com/www.bloggingstocks.com/media/2007/11/alibaba.jpg" />OK, so is China really communist? Not from what I can see. </p>
<p>Just look at the IPO market. Yes, it's been sizzling. </p>
<p>And, of course, the latest mega deal is the public offering of Alibaba.com, which operates a sprawling group of fast-growing Internet properties. </p>
<p>According to a <a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601080&amp;sid=aLtQSTnRGzdw&amp;refer=asia">report</a> from Bloomberg.com, the IPO surged from HK$13.50 to HK$39.50. In fact, Alibaba.com sports a market cap of a cool $25.7 billion. That is a thrill for <a href="http://finance.aol.com/quotes/yahoo-inc/yhoo/nas">Yahoo!</a> (NASDAQ: <a href="http://finance.aol.com/quotes/yahoo-inc/yhoo/nas">YHOO)</a>, which has a 39% stake in the company. </p>
<p>Actually, Alibaba.com even has <em>earnings</em>. Although, at the current valuation, they are more than 150 times the market cap. That makes <a href="http://finance.aol.com/quotes/google-inc/goog/nas">Google</a> (NASDAQ: <a href="http://finance.aol.com/quotes/google-inc/goog/nas">GOOG</a>) look pretty cheap.</p>
<p>While China certainly has strong growth prospects, there are still risks. Can the country continue its torrid growth rate? What about political instability?</p>
<p>If you look at the history of US markets, strong IPO markets are usually a sign of excess and a top. So, investors should show caution.</p>
<p>And if you want to check out the IPO action here in the US -- which is not as frothy -- you can visit <a href="http://www.dealprofiles.com">DealProfiles.com</a>.<br /><em><br />Tom Taulli is the author of various books, including <a href=" http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0761535616?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=mergerforum0f-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0761535616">The Complete M&amp;A Handbook</a><img width="1" height="1" border="0" style="border-style: none ! important; margin: 0px;" alt="" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=mergerforum0f-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0761535616" /> and <a href=" http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1932159282?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=mergerforum0f-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1932159282">The Edgar Online Guide to Decoding Financial Statements</a><img width="1" height="1" border="0" style="border-style: none ! important; margin: 0px;" alt="" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=mergerforum0f-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1932159282" />.</em></p><p style="padding:5px;background:#ddd;border:1px solid #ccc;clear:both;"><a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2007/11/06/alibaba-ipos-and-communists/">Alibaba, IPOs and Communists</a> originally appeared on <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com">BloggingStocks</a> on Tue, 06 Nov 2007 11:10:00 EST.  Please see our <a href="http://www.weblogsinc.com/feed-terms/">terms for use of feeds</a>.</p><h6 style="clear: both; padding: 8px 0 0 0; height: 2px; font-size: 1px; border: 0; margin: 0; padding: 0;"></h6><a href=http://ww.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601080&amp;sid=aLtQSTnRGzdw&amp;refer=asia>Read</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2007/11/06/alibaba-ipos-and-communists/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent link to this entry">Permalink</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/forward/1031639/" title="Send this entry to a friend via email">Email this</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2007/11/06/alibaba-ipos-and-communists/#comments" title="View reader comments on this entry">Comments</a>]]></description><category>Alibaba.com</category><category>china internet</category><category>ChinaInternet</category><category>chinese internet companies</category><category>ChineseInternetCompanies</category><category>internet advertising</category><category>InternetAdvertising</category><category>inthenews</category><category>IPOs</category><category>yhoo</category><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Taulli]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 11:10:00 EST</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Does Alibaba's IPO mean China's markets have peaked?]]></title><link>http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2007/10/29/does-alibabas-ipo-show-chinas-markets-have-peaked/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2007/10/29/does-alibabas-ipo-show-chinas-markets-have-peaked/</guid><comments>http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2007/10/29/does-alibabas-ipo-show-chinas-markets-have-peaked/#comments</comments><description><![CDATA[<p>Filed under: <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/internet/" rel="tag">Internet</a>, <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/goog/" rel="tag">Google (GOOG)</a>, <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/yhoo/" rel="tag">Yahoo! (YHOO)</a>, <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/china/" rel="tag">China</a>, <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/initial-public-offerings/" rel="tag">Initial Public Offerings</a>, <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/technology/" rel="tag">Technology</a></p><p><img vspace="4" hspace="4" border="0" align="right" src="http://www.blogcdn.com/www.bloggingstocks.com/media/2007/10/alibaba_logo.gif"  alt="" />The IPO of Alibaba, the large Chinese e-commerce site, may show that the China stock markets are topping. The company appears to have raised $1.5 billion for about 17% of the company. This is good news for <a href="http://finance.aol.com/quotes/yahoo-inc/yhoo/nas">Yahoo! Inc.</a> (NASDAQ: <a href="http://finance.aol.com/quotes/yahoo-inc/yhoo/nas">YHOO</a>), which invested a billion dollars in the site, but it could also make the US portal look bad. If the China market moves down before Yahoo! can off-load some of those shares, its initial investment in the company may not look like a coup.</p>
<p>The astonishing thing about the Alibaba IPO is that, <a href="http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/29/alibaba-said-to-raise-15-billion-in-ipo/">according to</a> <em>The New York Times</em>, "the I.P.O. price translates to a multiple of 55 times its forecast 2008 earnings." The number serves to point out the fact that, even with its economy growing at 10% a year, sustaining P/Es at this level will become impossible, as it did in the Japanese markets and US internet stocks in late 1990s. Both of those bubbles led to corrections of more than 50%.</p>
<p>The Shanghai Composite Index is now up well over 200% this year. The bull argument for an ongoing increase is that the emerging China middle class needs a place to invest its money and cannot move that capital into overseas equities. That makes the market overly dependent on one set of buyers.</p><p><a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2007/10/29/does-alibabas-ipo-show-chinas-markets-have-peaked/" rel="bookmark">Continue reading <em>Does Alibaba's IPO mean China's markets have peaked?</em></a></p><p style="padding:5px;background:#ddd;border:1px solid #ccc;clear:both;"><a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2007/10/29/does-alibabas-ipo-show-chinas-markets-have-peaked/">Does Alibaba's IPO mean China's markets have peaked?</a> originally appeared on <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com">BloggingStocks</a> on Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:45:00 EST.  Please see our <a href="http://www.weblogsinc.com/feed-terms/">terms for use of feeds</a>.</p><h6 style="clear: both; padding: 8px 0 0 0; height: 2px; font-size: 1px; border: 0; margin: 0; padding: 0;"></h6><a href=http://ealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/29/alibaba-said-to-raise-15-billion-in-ipo/>Read</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2007/10/29/does-alibabas-ipo-show-chinas-markets-have-peaked/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent link to this entry">Permalink</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/forward/1024334/" title="Send this entry to a friend via email">Email this</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2007/10/29/does-alibabas-ipo-show-chinas-markets-have-peaked/#comments" title="View reader comments on this entry">Comments</a>]]></description><category>alibaba</category><category>baidu</category><category>bidu</category><category>china internet</category><category>china internet market</category><category>ChinaInternet</category><category>ChinaInternetMarket</category><category>chinese internet companies</category><category>ChineseInternetCompanies</category><category>goog</category><category>internet advertising</category><category>InternetAdvertising</category><category>inthenews</category><category>yhoo</category><dc:creator><![CDATA[Douglas McIntyre]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:45:00 EST</pubDate></item></channel></rss>
