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<generator>Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/</generator><item><title><![CDATA[Chasing Value: Financials risky but up 26%]]></title><link>http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/09/03/chasing-value-financials-risky-but-up-26/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/09/03/chasing-value-financials-risky-but-up-26/</guid><comments>http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/09/03/chasing-value-financials-risky-but-up-26/#comments</comments><description><![CDATA[<p>Filed under: <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/major-movement/" rel="tag">Major Movement</a>, <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/good-news/" rel="tag">Good news</a>, <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/competitive-strategy/" rel="tag">Competitive Strategy</a>, <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/c/" rel="tag">Citigroup Inc. (C)</a>, <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/mer/" rel="tag">Merrill Lynch (MER)</a>, <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/wb/" rel="tag">Wachovia Corp (WB)</a>, <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/wm/" rel="tag">Washington Mutual (WM)</a>, <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/bargain-stocks/" rel="tag">Bargain Stocks</a>, <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/chasing-value/" rel="tag">Chasing Value[TM]</a>, <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/leh/" rel="tag">Lehman Br Holdings (LEH)</a>, <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/nct/" rel="tag">Newcastle Investment (NCT)</a>, <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/mbi/" rel="tag">MBIA Inc (MBI)</a>, <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/gkk/" rel="tag">Gramercy Capital (GKK)</a>, <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/etfc/" rel="tag">E*TRADE (ETFC)</a>, <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/ewbc/" rel="tag">East West Bancorp (EWBC)</a></p><a href="http://finance.aol.com/quotes/citigroup-incorporated/c/nys"><span class="change"><strong><img vspace="4" hspace="4" border="0" align="right" src="http://www.blogcdn.com/www.bloggingstocks.com/media/2008/09/moneyroll.jpg" alt="" /></strong></span></a>It has been five weeks since I posted <a target="_blank" title="View Serious Money: Tempting fate with 10 financials on BloggingStocks" href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/07/30/serious-money-tempting-fate-with-10-financials/">Serious Money: Tempting fate with 10 financials</a>. The results of buying into the following pool of financial stocks at a time when the "hate 'em" factor was at a peak has been tremendous. The over all return has has been 26.3% with eight stocks up and two down.<br /><br />For investors this might have been too speculative; for traders, they are probably grinning from ear to ear. For me -- we will see where we stand next year. As one of my colleagues reminded me, this is the real test, although I think there is reason for optimism.<br /><br />The leader of the pack was <a href="http://finance.aol.com/quotes/mbia-inc/mbi/nys">MBIA Inc</a> (NYSE: <a href="http://finance.aol.com/quotes/mbia-inc/mbi/nys">MBI</a>), up 228%. In the absence of that gain the appreciation would have only been 3.5%. That beats all the indices but is not as dramatic.
<ul>
    <li><a href="http://finance.aol.com/quotes/citigroup-incorporated/c/nys">Citigroup Inc</a>. (NYSE: <a href="http://finance.aol.com/quotes/citigroup-incorporated/c/nys">C</a>) -- $<span class="change">18.45 <strong>down 63%</strong> from its 52 week high of $49.90; closed yesterday at $19.11, <strong>UP 3.57%</strong><br /></span></li>
    <li><a href="http://finance.aol.com/quotes/lehman-brothers-holdings-inc/leh/nys">Lehman Br Holdings</a> (NYSE: <a href="http://finance.aol.com/quotes/lehman-brothers-holdings-inc/leh/nys">LEH</a>) -- $16.88 <strong>down 75%</strong> from its 52 week high of $67.73<span class="change">; closed yesterday at $16.13, <strong>down 4.44%</strong></span> </li>
    <li><a href="http://finance.aol.com/quotes/merrill-lynch-and-co-inc/mer/nys">Merrill Lynch</a> (NYSE: <a href="http://finance.aol.com/quotes/merrill-lynch-and-co-inc/mer/nys">MER</a>) -- $26.25 <strong>down 67%</strong> from its 52 week high of $79.72<span class="change">; closed yesterday at $27.75, <strong>UP 5.7%</strong></span>. </li>
    <li><a href="http://finance.aol.com/quotes/mbia-inc/mbi/nys">MBIA Inc</a> (NYSE: <a href="http://finance.aol.com/quotes/mbia-inc/mbi/nys">MBI</a>) -- $4.92 <strong>down 93%</strong> from its 52 week high of $68.98<span class="change">; closed yesterday at $16.14, <strong>UP 228%</strong></span>.</li>
    <li><a onclick="addCat(this);" id="14069" href="http://finance.aol.com/quotes/e-trade-financial-corporation/etfc/nas">E*TRADE</a> (NASDAQ: <a onclick="addCat(this);" id="14069" href="http://finance.aol.com/quotes/e-trade-financial-corporation/etfc/nas">ETFC)</a> -- $3.06 <strong>down 84%</strong> from its 52 week high of $19.39<span class="change">; closed yesterday at $3.25, <strong>UP 6.2</strong></span>. </li>
    <li><a href="http://finance.aol.com/quotes/east-west-bancorp-inc/ewbc/nas"> East West Bancorp</a> (NASDAQ: <a href="http://finance.aol.com/quotes/east-west-bancorp-inc/ewbc/nas">EWBC</a>) -- $12.46 <strong>down 67%</strong> from its 52 week high of $20.88<span class="change">; closed yesterday at $13.01, <strong>UP 4.4%</strong></span>. </li>
    <li><a href="http://finance.aol.com/quotes/gramercy-capital-corp/gkk/nys"> Gramercy Capital</a> (NYSE: <a href="http://finance.aol.com/quotes/gramercy-capital-corp/gkk/nys">GKK</a>) -- $6.72 <strong>down 77%</strong> from its 52 week high of $29.45<span class="change">; closed yesterday at $6.80, <strong>UP 1.2%</strong></span>. </li>
    <li><a href="http://finance.aol.com/quotes/newcastle-investment-corporation/nct/nys"> Newcastle Investment</a> (NYSE: <a href="http://finance.aol.com/quotes/newcastle-investment-corporation/nct/nys">NCT</a>) -- $5.88 <strong>down 72%</strong> from its 52 week high of $20.88<span class="change">; closed yesterday at $6.89, <strong>UP 17.18%</strong></span>. </li>
    <li><a href="http://finance.aol.com/quotes/wachovia-corporation/wb/nys"> Wachovia Corp.</a> (NYSE: <a href="http://finance.aol.com/quotes/wachovia-corporation/wb/nys">WB</a>) -- $15.70 <strong>down 70%</strong> from its 52 week high of $53.10<span class="change">; closed yesterday at $16.65, <strong>UP 6%</strong></span>. </li>
    <li><a href="http://finance.aol.com/quotes/washington-mutual-incorporated/wm/nys"> Washington Mutual</a> (NYSE: <a href="http://finance.aol.com/quotes/washington-mutual-incorporated/wm/nys">WM</a>) -- $4.43 <strong>down 89%</strong> from its 52 week high of $39.48<span class="change">; closed yesterday at $4.24, <strong>down 4.29%</strong></span></li>
</ul>
In my original post I emphasized that you had to buy the pool for safety. During the last month, we have seen many stories about Lehman Brothers' demise or the collapse of a major bank like WaMu or Wachovia, and if that had happened the gains in MBIA would have made up for the total and complete collapse of any one of them. I have no reason to believe this is immanent. I do have reason to believe the opposite. During the last month I bought additional shares of WaMu, one of the two down stocks at $3.50 per share.
<p><a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2006/05/24/about-the-stock-bloggers-sheldon-d-liber-aia/"><em>Sheldon Liber</em></a><em> is the CEO of a small private investment company and the principal for design and research at an architecture &amp; planning firm. He writes the columns <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/chasing-value/">Chasing Value</a> and <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/serious-money/">Serious Money</a>. Disclosure: I own shares of MBI, NCT &amp; WM.</em></p><p style="padding:5px;background:#ddd;border:1px solid #ccc;clear:both;"><a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/09/03/chasing-value-financials-risky-but-up-26/">Chasing Value: Financials risky but up 26%</a> originally appeared on <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com">BloggingStocks</a> on Wed, 03 Sep 2008 14:15:00 EST.  Please see our <a href="http://www.weblogsinc.com/feed-terms/">terms for use of feeds</a>.</p><h6 style="clear: both; padding: 8px 0 0 0; height: 2px; font-size: 1px; border: 0; margin: 0; padding: 0;"></h6><a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/09/03/chasing-value-financials-risky-but-up-26/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent link to this entry">Permalink</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/forward/1303330/" title="Send this entry to a friend via email">Email this</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/09/03/chasing-value-financials-risky-but-up-26/#comments" title="View reader comments on this entry">Comments</a>]]></description><category>C</category><category>Chasing Value</category><category>ChasingValue</category><category>Citigroup Inc.</category><category>CitigroupInc.</category><category>East West Bancorp</category><category>EastWestBancorp</category><category>ETFC</category><category>ETRADE</category><category>EWBC</category><category>featured</category><category>GKK</category><category>Gramercy Capital</category><category>GramercyCapital</category><category>LEH</category><category>Lehman Br Holdings</category><category>LehmanBrHoldings</category><category>MBI</category><category>MBIA Inc</category><category>MbiaInc</category><category>MER</category><category>Merrill Lynch</category><category>MerrillLynch</category><category>NCT</category><category>Newcastle Investment</category><category>NewcastleInvestment</category><category>Sheldon Liber</category><category>SheldonLiber</category><category>Wachovia Corp</category><category>WachoviaCorp</category><category>Washington Mutual</category><category>WashingtonMutual</category><category>WB</category><category>WM</category><dc:creator><![CDATA[Sheldon Liber]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 14:15:00 EST</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Serious Money: Wisdom or folly -- 10 financials updated]]></title><link>http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/08/08/serious-money-wisdom-or-folly-10-financials-updated/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/08/08/serious-money-wisdom-or-folly-10-financials-updated/</guid><comments>http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/08/08/serious-money-wisdom-or-folly-10-financials-updated/#comments</comments><description><![CDATA[<p>Filed under: <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/c/" rel="tag">Citigroup Inc. (C)</a>, <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/mer/" rel="tag">Merrill Lynch (MER)</a>, <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/wb/" rel="tag">Wachovia Corp (WB)</a>, <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/wm/" rel="tag">Washington Mutual (WM)</a>, <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/leh/" rel="tag">Lehman Br Holdings (LEH)</a>, <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/nct/" rel="tag">Newcastle Investment (NCT)</a>, <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/mbi/" rel="tag">MBIA Inc (MBI)</a>, <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/gkk/" rel="tag">Gramercy Capital (GKK)</a>, <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/etfc/" rel="tag">E*TRADE (ETFC)</a>, <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/ewbc/" rel="tag">East West Bancorp (EWBC)</a></p><p><img vspace="4" hspace="4" border="0" align="right" alt="" src="http://www.blogcdn.com/www.bloggingstocks.com/media/2008/07/ray-light.jpg" />Yesterday the <a href="http://finance.aol.com/quotes/dow-jones-industrial-average-index/%24indu/dji">Dow Jones Industrial Average</a> was down 225, so I decided to peg the financial stocks I wrote about investing in as a pool. We are often accused of bragging on the good days and having memory loss on the bad so I wanted to be transparent and forthright on the downside.</p>
To my surprise the financial stock pool is actually <span style="font-weight: bold;">up 9.96% </span>on average. Six stocks increased in value, two were down and two stocks were even money. The big winner was <a href="http://finance.aol.com/quotes/mbia-inc/mbi/nys">MBIA Inc</a> (NYSE: <a href="http://finance.aol.com/quotes/mbia-inc/mbi/nys">MBI</a>) up over 68%!<br /><br />In the same time frame the DJIA has gone from <span class="price">11,397.56 to 11,431.43 (even) and the S&amp;P has gone from 1263.2 to 1266.06 last night, for basically no change either.<br /></span>
<p>The market is rebounding as I write so I expect the news is even better. Although, this pool of stocks beat the market so far in the short run, I hope to track this group for a year, or at least until Major League Baseball's spring training opens in 2009.<br /></p>
<p>If you want to track the story with me the first post was <a title="View Serious Money: 10 finance stocks as the market bounces on BloggingStocks" href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/07/29/serious-money-market-bounces-financial-will-rule-pick-10/" target="_blank"><font color="#55629b">Serious Money: 10 finance stocks as the market bounces</font></a>. I remain stubbornly optimistic that this is a buying opportunity and investors will be sorry they did not have the courage to buy stocks when they were hated. The follow-up was <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/07/30/serious-money-tempting-fate-with-10-financials/" title="View Serious Money: Tempting fate with 10 financials on BloggingStocks" target="_blank">Serious Money: Tempting fate with 10 financials</a></p>
<p>The initial prices are as of July 29, 2008.</p><p><a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/08/08/serious-money-wisdom-or-folly-10-financials-updated/" rel="bookmark">Continue reading <em>Serious Money: Wisdom or folly -- 10 financials updated</em></a></p><p style="padding:5px;background:#ddd;border:1px solid #ccc;clear:both;"><a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/08/08/serious-money-wisdom-or-folly-10-financials-updated/">Serious Money: Wisdom or folly -- 10 financials updated</a> originally appeared on <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com">BloggingStocks</a> on Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:12:00 EST.  Please see our <a href="http://www.weblogsinc.com/feed-terms/">terms for use of feeds</a>.</p><h6 style="clear: both; padding: 8px 0 0 0; height: 2px; font-size: 1px; border: 0; margin: 0; padding: 0;"></h6><a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/08/08/serious-money-wisdom-or-folly-10-financials-updated/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent link to this entry">Permalink</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/forward/1279026/" title="Send this entry to a friend via email">Email this</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/08/08/serious-money-wisdom-or-folly-10-financials-updated/#comments" title="View reader comments on this entry">Comments</a>]]></description><category>C</category><category>Citigroup Inc</category><category>CitigroupInc</category><category>East West Bancorp</category><category>EastWestBancorp</category><category>ETFC</category><category>ETRADE</category><category>featured</category><category>GKK</category><category>Gramercy Capital</category><category>GramercyCapital</category><category>LEH</category><category>Lehman Br Holdings</category><category>LehmanBrHoldings</category><category>MBI</category><category>MBIA Inc</category><category>MbiaInc</category><category>MER</category><category>Merrill Lynch</category><category>MerrillLynch</category><category>NCT</category><category>Newcastle Investment</category><category>NewcastleInvestment</category><category>Serious Money</category><category>SeriousMoney</category><category>Sheldon Liber</category><category>SheldonLiber</category><category>Wachovia Corp</category><category>WachoviaCorp</category><category>Washington Mutual</category><category>WashingtonMutual</category><category>WB</category><category>WM</category><dc:creator><![CDATA[Sheldon Liber]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:12:00 EST</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Serious Money: Tempting fate with 10 financials]]></title><link>http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/07/30/serious-money-tempting-fate-with-10-financials/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/07/30/serious-money-tempting-fate-with-10-financials/</guid><comments>http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/07/30/serious-money-tempting-fate-with-10-financials/#comments</comments><description><![CDATA[<p>Filed under: <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/major-movement/" rel="tag">Major Movement</a>, <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/marketmatters/" rel="tag">Market Matters</a>, <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/c/" rel="tag">Citigroup Inc. (C)</a>, <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/mer/" rel="tag">Merrill Lynch (MER)</a>, <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/wb/" rel="tag">Wachovia Corp (WB)</a>, <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/wm/" rel="tag">Washington Mutual (WM)</a>, <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/serious-money/" rel="tag">Serious Money</a>, <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/leh/" rel="tag">Lehman Br Holdings (LEH)</a>, <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/stocks-to-buy/" rel="tag">Stocks to Buy</a>, <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/nct/" rel="tag">Newcastle Investment (NCT)</a>, <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/mbi/" rel="tag">MBIA Inc (MBI)</a>, <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/gkk/" rel="tag">Gramercy Capital (GKK)</a>, <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/etfc/" rel="tag">E*TRADE (ETFC)</a>, <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/category/ewbc/" rel="tag">East West Bancorp (EWBC)</a></p><p><img vspace="4" hspace="4" border="0" align="right" src="http://www.blogcdn.com/www.bloggingstocks.com/media/2008/07/ray-light.jpg" alt="" />After the market closed last night, with the <a href="http://finance.aol.com/quotes/dow-jones-industrial-average-index/%24indu/dji">Dow Jones Industrial Average</a> rebounding from Monday's notable drop and ending the trading day at 11,397.56, up 266.48 (+2.39%), I posted <a target="_blank" href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/07/29/serious-money-market-bounces-financial-will-rule-pick-10/" title="View Serious Money: 10 finance stocks as the market bounces on BloggingStocks"><font color="#55629b">Serious Money: 10 finance stocks as the market bounces</font></a>. This is the follow-up post listing the full pool of speculative stocks that as a group I believe will beat the overall market in the next 12 months. </p>
<p>The prediction business is thankless and the speculative business is even worse; it is often painful. I usually refrain from this activity but today I play the contrarian in a <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/2269415/Sir-John-Templeton.html">Sir John Templeton</a> (RIP) sort of way, jumping into the stock market's worst performing sector with both feet. I believe the market is at or near a bottom and this summer is the time to buy.</p>
<p>Looking for a break in the clouds, yesterday I started choosing ten stocks knowing that three or four may go to zero, a few more will survive with modest gains, and three or four will rise, not returning to their old glory soon but more than covering the ones that fail. The first four picks have been bleeding all over Wall Street for a year now and the blood-letting is not done yet.</p>
<p>Initially I was looking for stocks that had fallen at least 70%. After reviewing my figures, I have compromised and changed that to 63% so that I could include some of the major companies like <a href="http://finance.aol.com/quotes/citigroup-incorporated/c/nys">Citigroup Inc</a>. (NYSE: <a href="http://finance.aol.com/quotes/citigroup-incorporated/c/nys">C</a>) that are broadly held and have strong reader interest. Prices are as of July 29, 2008.</p><p><a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/07/30/serious-money-tempting-fate-with-10-financials/" rel="bookmark">Continue reading <em>Serious Money: Tempting fate with 10 financials</em></a></p><p style="padding:5px;background:#ddd;border:1px solid #ccc;clear:both;"><a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/07/30/serious-money-tempting-fate-with-10-financials/">Serious Money: Tempting fate with 10 financials</a> originally appeared on <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com">BloggingStocks</a> on Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:52:00 EST.  Please see our <a href="http://www.weblogsinc.com/feed-terms/">terms for use of feeds</a>.</p><h6 style="clear: both; padding: 8px 0 0 0; height: 2px; font-size: 1px; border: 0; margin: 0; padding: 0;"></h6><a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/07/30/serious-money-tempting-fate-with-10-financials/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent link to this entry">Permalink</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/forward/1270297/" title="Send this entry to a friend via email">Email this</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/07/30/serious-money-tempting-fate-with-10-financials/#comments" title="View reader comments on this entry">Comments</a>]]></description><category>C</category><category>Citigroup</category><category>East West Bancorp</category><category>EastWestBancorp</category><category>ETRADE</category><category>EWBC</category><category>financial stocks</category><category>FinancialStocks</category><category>Gramercy Capital</category><category>GramercyCapital</category><category>LEH</category><category>Lehman Brothers</category><category>LehmanBrothers</category><category>MBI</category><category>MBIA</category><category>MER</category><category>Merrill Lynch</category><category>MerrillLynch</category><category>Newcastle Investment</category><category>NewcastleInvestment</category><category>Serious Money</category><category>SeriousMoney</category><category>Sheldon Liber</category><category>SheldonLiber</category><category>Wachovia Corp</category><category>WachoviaCorp</category><category>WaMu</category><category>Washington Mutual</category><category>WashingtonMutual</category><category>WB</category><category>WM</category><dc:creator><![CDATA[Sheldon Liber]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:52:00 EST</pubDate></item></channel></rss>
